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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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RP groups tend to always go down the drama route.
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this seems unrelated to the topicality of this channel
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excuse me
6:18 AM
does #meta also encompass religion
6:19 AM
as in major organised religion...
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" We don't really "see" tulpas either when imposing them, we hallucinate them. " Akasha, those who can see energy though could see them, just like I think cats can see tulpas if enough time was spent to form them outside the body (edited)
5:07 AM
awe.. this site is not a rp (I assume you mean role play) group thou (edited)
5:09 AM
Twi, yes religion would have to be regarded as a meta thing too..
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I have some more spirit ball pictures. Once again I got these by taking photos of what I was not seeing but what my cat was seeing and reacting too.
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One day I hope to get a shadow person or something other then orbs when taking these kinds of shots
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5:16 AM
there is an orb next to the fan to the right of it.. and another above the fan heading up towards the ceiling. (possibly another on the fan itself but I'm ignoring that as it possibly is a reflection on the fan that one)
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5:20 AM
the fan is reflecting on the grid part of the aircon so that's nothing but there is several orbs.. one small one above the fan and one in the other room through the doorway down on the floor and one on the metal stand part of the fan .. you'll need to look at photo bigger to see it (and a very faint one on the wall but that is hard to see). (edited)
5:26 AM
once again for those insects can be ruled out, moisture orbs can be ruled out.. dust orbs can be ruled out (you arent going to be able to see a spect of dust which is on the floor in another room). Some will say these orbs are light reflections but why isnt everyone else getting them in their photos then? I get these under certain circumstances eg when I've been doing powerful yogi meditations, when I actually see these or when my cat brings them to my attention.
5:27 AM
the more I meditate with certain meditations.. the more orbs start appearing about my house.
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5:35 AM
see the light reflection the the fan, it's clearly a light reflection.. as light often does it's like reflecting out to a side of (with possible another smaller light reflection on the fan). Where as the orbs I'm getting now (I've just released what Im getting now are different to the ones I used to get, the ones I used to get had more dappled looks to them) they have the colours. The ones I used to get did not have that but a denser white outer part then the inner white dappled part, so I think these spirit orbs are a different type of spirits showing a different presentation of orb. (edited)
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Hello!
6:44 AM
I am looking for a Tulpa that would be interested in attempting a scientific experiment. I have no idea if anyone is even online right now so I'll wait a few minutes for an answer before going to bed.
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Alice❀ | Δ BOT 11/11/2019 7:27 AM
@Linky64 very well
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What's the Astral (edited)
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Alice❀ | Δ BOT 11/13/2019 7:06 AM
astral projection?
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Alice❀ | Δ BOT 11/13/2019 10:39 AM
could be, i've only heard astral prof
10:39 AM
proj*
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Astral plane, yes
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...What is the astral plane?
12:15 AM
I've asked that too and never really gotten an answer
12:16 AM
I told an IRL friend of tulpas one day and when we discussed it in-depth he said he supposed they lived on the astral plane. I asked what that was and he was seemingly annoyed - while he was correct that I had heard of it before he was incorrect in supposing I actually knew what it was
12:17 AM
Of course he couldn't really explain it >.>
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Guess for explanation the Astral Plane is a place between the worlds the unseen
12:32 AM
Or just the unseen world
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THE UNSEEN WORLD!? I HAVE A BOOK ABOUT THE PARANORMAL!
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according to D&D, the astral plane a connecting plane between the outer planes (where gods live) and the etherial plane, which connects the inner planes (which are mostly elemental planes and material planes (we are in a material plane)). I don't know how similar that is to the meta concept though
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I can explain the astral plane a little, I will if I remember tomorrow
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Alice❀ | Δ BOT 11/15/2019 7:16 AM
cool!
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So I researched astral stuff a while ago, here's my understanding of it. Not based on my own experience, and I'm not saying it's real either. In addition to the physical world we live in with it's physics, and objective consensus reality, there are many other layers of reality with different rules. There are possibly infinite areas in the astral. Other entities live in astral, all over the place. There are some places that are similar to the physical world; if you have an out of body experience, you may find yourself in a layer of the astral which is so similar to the physical that you think you are like a disembodied spirit walking around your room. But maybe the walls are a different color or other odd differences (because it's not actually the physical world). There are layers of the astral that are "thought reactive" where if you think or imagine something, it will appear. You might think you met an entity there, but it was a creation from your mind. If you have intrusive thoughts, those could come to life and scare you. It can feel very real, however. You could essentially imagine any cool thing you want to experience like a lucid dream. Dreams and Lucid dreams are said to happen in the astral plane, in like a personal area based on your own mind.
8:27 PM
There are also layers of the astral that more concrete, stable, and have other people/entities. They are consensus realities and it may be very difficult to say, create an object from your imagination and have it stay. I've also read that time and space outside (or including) the physical world are something of an illusion. Everything exists everywhere at once. If you visit the astral, you can go anywhere instantly, because there's no actual distance to travel. Not everyone is skilled enough to control their experience, and it's easy to get caught up in your reaction to things. When you die you go to the astral, but where you end up depends on your mental state, and your expectation about where you'll end up after death. All this is based on reports from people who (claim to) astral project a lot. (edited)
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Woah
8:28 PM
Thanks Yuka 💕
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I suppose it would be
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Why would you wanna go there?
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That's a pretty good explanation, if we go by that then my friend's reasoning that our inner-world exists on the astral plane seems right
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Pudding, you'd end up there when you die anyway. It could be a fun place to explore
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However I don't actually think there is an astral plane really
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What if i commit suicide in the astral plane?
8:32 PM
Or wont it let me?
8:32 PM
Like, will it let me die please?
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Idk, you might just get stuck somewhere unpleasant
8:33 PM
Why can i never rest for
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You gotta keep me existing no matter what huh? Stupid universe
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Maybe you could "experience" a void for a long time
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That would make me bored
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Don’t think you would be aware
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That's why I put quotes
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Please just let me die
8:35 PM
Forever
8:35 PM
Like
8:35 PM
I cant even have that
8:35 PM
That sucks
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I'm not an expert, who knows, maybe there's a way
8:36 PM
If it's real, I put my meta cap on to talk about this stuff
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Ill just make a tulpa and dissipate myself. No matter the realm really
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You okay pudding?
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That's kinda sad (edited)
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Do i ever seem okay to you?
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Yes
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Manokit Marshall 11/15/2019 8:42 PM
You want me to answer that honestly pudding?
8:50 PM
@Manokit Marshall
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Manokit Marshall 11/15/2019 8:52 PM
No. No you don't
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Take it somewhere else, please
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This is metaphysics
8:56 PM
This is where i am supposed to be asking these questions
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Alice❀ | Δ BOT 11/15/2019 10:36 PM
pudding... :(
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Well as I've had a suicide attempt. The astral is no place where souls or we-their incarnations-rest. And I've tried to kill myself (all those years ago) in the astral. I just bloody healed. And I never practiced any form of healing. Death is non existent in the Astral. I even applied my Wicca Education to my astal ....Equipment. I still remained, so I fucked off to the 8th dimension and outer space, got possessed (Act II) then, only middle of this month came back.
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So, @Svea Our deaths are purposeless. As we 'exist' In a Fate far more disheartening than Hell. No, an actual afterlife. I'm wrong. ....Worse than. The Underworld. We get muddled in with our souls previous incarnations. So, don't fool yourself with suicide, you'll only waste your time as a spirit/ghost like I did.
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Gavin | JGC BOT 11/25/2019 3:08 AM
I also commited a symbolic suicide and was gone for several years. I came back in 20 seconds. Headmates don't die, an integrated host especially cannot.
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Abvieon {Alex} 11/25/2019 3:13 AM
What do you mean when you say that you were gone for years but came back in 20 seconds?
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There can be nice places. But you'll have to make it for yourself. (and working here AND there at the same time is key)
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I was dormant for years, but when my host wanted me back, I was pretty seamlessly summon back up. Took a while for me to get my bearings, but no "forcing" needed.
6:34 PM
But I was quite established before I left.
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I should check into this forum area more often. I'm reading posts from 10 days ago. Yuka all levels of the astral are thought reactive to a degree, its just some are more easy to affect than others. I personally find the closest astral level to the physical, almost completely identical to it.. things do look the same as it's like a copy of it.
7:28 AM
Melodia.. and astral beings in the astral plane can die and be killed. (I'm not sure though how that relates to us.. whether we'd then just end up in a different astral plane or what if we commited suicide there. Of cause as long as we have a physical body, we will ALWAYS have also an astral body as you cant have any physical without having an astral counterpart.. but say if we didnt have a physical body and just had an astral one.. I have no idea what would happen if you killed that)
7:31 AM
shadow beings can be killed, that is why I say things can astrally die..
7:34 AM
I find lucid dreaming more fun than astral projecting. More fun as you can do whatever you want to without having to worry about anything.. astral projection can be boring at times say if you find yourself stuck in your room and unable to get out.. after the novelity of doing summersalts in the air, touching the ceiling etc wear off.. it can be boring unless you know where you want to astrally go to and manage to get there
7:35 AM
i love to do some crazy things when lucid dreaming..
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Tulpas are similar to canines i.e. they don't go to Heaven
11:27 AM
Debate me
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T-Zero | Δ BOT 11/26/2019 11:37 AM
neither do humans
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Heaven and hell are both alike at this point i think. According to christianity, we have free will. So we can be shitheads in heaven all we want and get to stay there. We just need to be good all our time on earth thats it. Then its free reign. We wont get thrown out lol
11:53 AM
Never have i heard about a human getting kicked out of heaven lol. Only angels
11:55 AM
Stop it. Im asking what if here EspinozaBeSniffingThatArm
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frist, what heaven are you talking about ?
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